Visiting the offices of Mute Records, the iconic indie label
behind Depeche Mode, Erasure and Moby, would be a holy pilgrimage for many. But
for Alice Costelloe, the 19-year-old
singer-guitarist of the London duo Big
Deal (her sole bandmate is California native Kacey Underwood), it's more like a "school outing."
For starters, Big Deal is not an electronic act: Costelloe
and Underwood rely only on their guitars -- usually an acoustic and an electric
chugging out lines that would work just as well with Dave Grohl smashing away
behind them -- and their voices. But their refusal to dilute the immediacy and,
let's face it, romantic ambiguity of their setup is what makes their 2011 debut,
Lights Out, such a choice late-night
album.
PAPERMAG phoned Costelloe at her East London apartment,
where she filled us in on everything from gigging as a tween to the band's top
priority once they hit New York this weekend for shows at Glasslands at Mercury Lounge (hint: it will probably involve the word
"Ray's").
Am I just talking to
you, Alice, or is Kacey in there somewhere?
It's just me. Kacey's playing basketball, actually. I'm way
better than him, anyway, so don't worry about it.
Yanks, who needs 'em.
So where are you right now?
I'm just sitting in my bedroom. We just practiced, so I'm
just relaxing.
You guys still
practice in the bedroom?
We normally do, but we're going off to Europe tomorrow
morning so we figured we should probably do a proper one in the studio before
we go.
This will be your
first time in the States. Any plans?
We have to go get pizza, because Kacey loves pizza, and
apparently that's the best place for it. That's pretty much the only plan.
How're you feeling
about SXSW? Have you heard much about it, what it's like?
We saw our friends in Grouplove the other day and they were
like, "Wow, just prepare yourself. It's like a weeklong party. You should sleep
until then." It sounds pretty crazy.
How has life changed
since the album came out?
I finished school last summer, so we have so much more time
now and we pretty much just spend every day trying to write. Sometimes it's
just like hanging out, but you still feel like you're working on something.
Yeah, and Kacey quit his job, so this is just what we do now. So I think we feel
a bit more kind of pressure to work hard 'cos we don't have any other
distractions.
When you did the
album, were you ever tempted to bring in bass and drums? Did you ever doubt the
power of your setup?
I mean, we still "doubt the power." When we recorded the
album, we literally went from just writing these songs in our bedrooms do being
like, Oh, we can record it as an album now, and there wasn't even time for us
to think, Does it actually make sense to just have an album of two guitars? And
so we didn't have time to doubt it; it was too late once we'd done it. But I
think, you know, the really great thing about working with Mute is that we
wanted to just be able to make our album straight away because we had it ready
and we didn't want to lose this energy we had and realize that what we were
doing might not work. And yeah, it's only now that we crave the drums.
The official video for Big Deal's "Distant Neighborhood"
Have you thought
about that for the next album?
We still gotta concentrate on this one first I think. But
who knows? Maybe the next one will be an electro album. I don't know. It won't
be, probably.
Do you both live in
East London?
Yeah. We don't only stay in East London, but West London is
a whole different place. The studio was in Mute's offices in Hammersmith, which
is kind of a great place to record. I don't know if you know Hammersmith, but
there's nothing there, there's no distractions...it's like a foreign place for
us. Going to the Mute offices is like going on a school outing or something.
What was the first
album that made you fall in love with music?
I think it was this album that my stepdad played when he
first moved in, so I was a little kid. It was The Velvet Underground & Nico. Yeah, I just remember like just
wanting to hear all those songs again, and I never really like heard that kind
of music 'cos my parents had never really been that into music, or if they were
it was kind of like Patsy Cline or Van Morrison. So it was the first kind of,
you know, more relatable music. Yeah, I think it was that one.
As a guitar player,
who are your favorites?
[Laughs.] I so
don't even think of myself as a guitar player, so you've totally thrown me off.
Kacey's the guy that's all about the guitar parts and I'm all about the vocals
or something. When I was growing up I was a really big Smiths fan, really into
Johnny Marr, but I don't really know that much about guitar, so, I like it all.
What was the last
thing you listened to?Zuma by Neil Young actually just broke my record
player, which is really, really annoying. But yeah, that's why I know. 'Cause it
broke. Amazing record.
Big Deal plays Glasslands on Sunday, 3/11, with 2:54 and Zaza. Tickets here. They play Mercury Lounge Monday, 3/12 with 2:54. Tickets here.